Does Contao 3.3.7 stable enough for production ?

[dfranco]

Hi all,

I'v plan to upgrade my current Contao instance which is running 3.2.15 to latest 3.3 version but, when I try to download this version from the link below
https://contao.org/en/download.html

I get a warning saying that ...

"The selected version is outdated and might have issues, which affect the failure-free operation of your website."

So, should I stay on 3.2 and wait until 3.4 will be stable or I missed something ?

Thanks for your feedback

Davide

[xchs]

So, should I stay on 3.2 and wait until 3.4 will be stable or I missed something ?

With version 3.4.0 you'll get the latest stable version, along with a bunch of issue fixes that have been reported since the last version 3.3.7. Do you have any concerns to use a x.x.0 version?

[dfranco]

With version 3.4.0 you'll get the latest stable version, along with a bunch of issue fixes that have been reported since the last version 3.3.7. Do you have any concerns to use a x.x.0 version?

You meant "any concerns to use a 3.4.0 version" right ?

As you recommend upgrade directly from 3.2 to 3.4, I'm a bit worried about custom templates that I'll have to fix after the upgrade.
Were can I find templates modifications between 3.2 and 3.4 ?

Thanks for your feedback

Davide

[xchs]

You meant "any concerns to use a 3.4.0 version" right ?

Actually, I meant any x.x.0 version, including 3.4.0 as well.

Were can I find templates modifications between 3.2 and 3.4 ?

The GitHub compare view is quite big, but here is a list of the (HTML5) template files changed between version 3.2.15 and 3.4.0:

Changed files between 0b3636ef2430e6ad3510dca8bdf839e962395161 and 6a3b061b2616f215539f6a3c38c64c276af500f8
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_calendar.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_event.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventlist.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventmenu.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventmenu_year.html5
system/modules/comments/templates/elements/ce_comments.html5
system/modules/comments/templates/modules/mod_comment_form.html5
system/modules/core/templates/analytics/analytics_google.html5
system/modules/core/templates/analytics/analytics_piwik.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_changelog.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_confirm.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_diff.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_error.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_forbidden.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_help.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_incomplete.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_install.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_live_update.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_login.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_main.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_active.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_forward.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_layout.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_page.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_root.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_pagination.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_picker.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_popup.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_referer.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_switch.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_unavailable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_welcome.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_searchable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_section.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_sections.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_unsearchable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_accordion.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_code.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_download.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_downloads.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_gallery.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_hyperlink.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_hyperlink_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_list.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_markdown.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_player.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_table.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_text.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_captcha.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_checkbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_explanation.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_fieldset.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_headline.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_hidden.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_html.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_message.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_radio.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_row.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_row_double.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_select.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_submit.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_textarea.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_textfield.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_upload.html5
system/modules/core/templates/frontend/fe_page.html5
system/modules/core/templates/gallery/gallery_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_accordion.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_colorbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_mediaelement.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_slider.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_tablesort.html5
system/modules/core/templates/member/member_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/member/member_grouped.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_article_list.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_article_nav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_booknav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_breadcrumb.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_flash.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_message.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_quicklink.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_quicknav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_random_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_search.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_sitemap.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_chosen.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_mediabox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_slider.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_slimbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_tablesort.html5
system/modules/core/templates/navigation/nav_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/pagination/pagination.html5
system/modules/core/templates/picture/picture_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/rss/rss_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/rss/rss_items_only.html5
system/modules/devtools/templates/dev_beTemplate.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqlist.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqpage.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqreader.html5
system/modules/listing/templates/listing/list_default.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsarchive.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsarchive_empty.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newslist.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu_day.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu_year.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsreader.html5
system/modules/news/templates/news/news_latest.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter_list.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter_reader.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/newsletter/nl_default.html5
system/modules/repository/templates/repository_catlist.html5
system/modules/repository/templates/repository_catview.html5

[dfranco]

Actually, I meant any x.x.0 version, including 3.4.0 as well.


The GitHub compare view is quite big, but here is a list of the (HTML5) template files changed between version 3.2.15 and 3.4.0:

Changed files between 0b3636ef2430e6ad3510dca8bdf839e962395161 and 6a3b061b2616f215539f6a3c38c64c276af500f8
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_calendar.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_event.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventlist.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventmenu.html5
system/modules/calendar/templates/modules/mod_eventmenu_year.html5
system/modules/comments/templates/elements/ce_comments.html5
system/modules/comments/templates/modules/mod_comment_form.html5
system/modules/core/templates/analytics/analytics_google.html5
system/modules/core/templates/analytics/analytics_piwik.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_changelog.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_confirm.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_diff.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_error.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_forbidden.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_help.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_incomplete.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_install.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_live_update.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_login.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_main.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_active.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_forward.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_layout.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_page.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_no_root.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_pagination.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_picker.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_popup.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_referer.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_switch.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_unavailable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/backend/be_welcome.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_searchable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_section.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_sections.html5
system/modules/core/templates/block/block_unsearchable.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_accordion.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_code.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_download.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_downloads.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_gallery.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_hyperlink.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_hyperlink_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_list.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_markdown.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_player.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_table.html5
system/modules/core/templates/elements/ce_text.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_captcha.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_checkbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_explanation.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_fieldset.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_headline.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_hidden.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_html.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_message.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_radio.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_row.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_row_double.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_select.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_submit.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_textarea.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_textfield.html5
system/modules/core/templates/forms/form_upload.html5
system/modules/core/templates/frontend/fe_page.html5
system/modules/core/templates/gallery/gallery_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_accordion.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_colorbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_mediaelement.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_slider.html5
system/modules/core/templates/jquery/j_tablesort.html5
system/modules/core/templates/member/member_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/member/member_grouped.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_article_list.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_article_nav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_booknav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_breadcrumb.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_flash.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_message.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_password.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_quicklink.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_quicknav.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_random_image.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_search.html5
system/modules/core/templates/modules/mod_sitemap.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_chosen.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_mediabox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_slider.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_slimbox.html5
system/modules/core/templates/mootools/moo_tablesort.html5
system/modules/core/templates/navigation/nav_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/pagination/pagination.html5
system/modules/core/templates/picture/picture_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/rss/rss_default.html5
system/modules/core/templates/rss/rss_items_only.html5
system/modules/devtools/templates/dev_beTemplate.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqlist.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqpage.html5
system/modules/faq/templates/modules/mod_faqreader.html5
system/modules/listing/templates/listing/list_default.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsarchive.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsarchive_empty.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newslist.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu_day.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsmenu_year.html5
system/modules/news/templates/modules/mod_newsreader.html5
system/modules/news/templates/news/news_latest.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter_list.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/modules/mod_newsletter_reader.html5
system/modules/newsletter/templates/newsletter/nl_default.html5
system/modules/repository/templates/repository_catlist.html5
system/modules/repository/templates/repository_catview.html5

Hi,

Thanks for the list of templates which have been changed between 3.2.0 and 3.4.0.

I'll prepare a test environnement for the upgrade and figureout how much work I have to make my website working with 3.4.0.

Best regards

[ciaobello]

So, should I stay on 3.2 and wait until 3.4 will be stable or I missed something ?

You are working with a LTS (Long Term Support) version (at least supported til mid 2015). Why the heck you want to update?
Just wait for the next LTS. It will be 3.5 and then as XCHS siad jump on x.x.1 at least (3.5.1)

If you want to make an amortization of your website you should check out the release-plan:
https://contao.org/en/release-plan.html

Important for you is, that you keep doing security updates on your Version 3.2. Then you are on the secure side.

[dfranco]

You are working with a LTS (Long Term Support) version (at least supported til mid 2015). Why the heck you want to update?
Just wait for the next LTS. It will be 3.5 and then as XCHS siad jump on x.x.1 at least (3.5.1)

The reasons why I "need" to upgrade to 3.3 or 3.4 is, simply take advantage of the features in these new versions ...
But as many extensions I'm using aren't compatible for 3.4 yet, I have to stick on 3.2 for next few months

If you want to make an amortization of your website you should check out the release-plan:
https://contao.org/en/release-plan.html

Important for you is, that you keep doing security updates on your Version 3.2. Then you are on the secure side.

I'm used to keep Contao on latest version which include security bugfixes. But thanks to remind it.

Thanks for your help